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 Post subject: Where is the Players
PostPosted: Mon 19 Jul 2010, 10:51 
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Yo, i'm new here and i hope Subvein be fill of player soon. I wrote Multiplayer top down shooter on google and i found you.

I had the game 2 days ago and i face many problemes.

1. It's empty. No players. I'm still waiting.
2. WTF with my Driver ? I got an ATI 4500 xpress graphic card with the Omega Driver and i can't see the Shadows.
3. I can't acess to the map editor. The loading start and when it done, Subvein crash with a error report for Microsoft.
4. A "Follow Me" & "Wait/Go there" option with the gangsters may improve the alone players and the map edditing. It's boring to kill the enemy gangsters when ur alone. With a real time strategy device, like a class commander or a radio gadget, you can send your thugs where you want to help your team or defend your base. It may create a different warfare approach, for multiplayer and solo testing.
5. There is no sense the Gangsters don't shoot on the Mercenaries. Be a Mercenary is a personal choise. I think a mercenary must be bad ass and enought good to stay sneek and kill gang's thug for is own profit, no ? And, Mercenaries is not a Free-for-All team ?

I like this game, but this problemes make me mad. I supose the player's number will grow when 0.6 version come out, so i can wait. But i need more indication. When the characters costomization come out ? How i can use vehicules, is in the war mod ? I'll invite my friends here, but we need a little bit more stuff, like a update patch or something. I want to make map for hardcore multiplayer warfare with strategic deployement needed, but i'm still waiting for players all the day and the best i see it's 5 in a game. I think u understand.

May the forum most be move in a more appropriate Chat categorie too. lol


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 Post subject: Re: Where is the Players
PostPosted: Mon 19 Jul 2010, 15:41 
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First of all Welcome to the Forums.
Now on to the questions:
1. Yeah its kinda empty but you can still find players a good bet is to keep an eye on the counter at the top left of the site or you cold invite some friends and have small party play.
2. You should install you latest video driver ...
3. Uninstall and reinstall the game (make sure you are running as Administrator)
also you should Report all bugs and Trouble Shooting on this forum
viewforum.php?f=6 (pls include the log file)
4.There is almost no AI implemented the improvements in AI will come later on
5. Well that one of the perks a merc player has think of the mercenary team as a team composed of Free For All Players they are bad ass since all they do is Kill get money and Xp but they don't have a team to back them up + they have no respect unlocks and you can get killed by any player so its kinda You against the World.
As for:
Player customization
You will need community credits (+ its not implemented yet )
refer to this page http://subvein.net/community.php
Vehicles
Again they will be available on the next update and yes they will be available in War mode as well as some other game modes.
Thx for reading and good luck on the map of yours ...

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 Post subject: Re: Where is the Players
PostPosted: Mon 19 Jul 2010, 16:11 
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With the ATI cards it seems that the entire 5xxx series don't get shaodws and this may also be happening to the 4xxx series as well.
However Bencelot (the dev) thinks he may have fixed that in the upcoming 0.6 release. I really hope he has as it is really helpful for knowing what you can and can't see.

Subvein 0.6 is going to afdd so much more to the game and is making massive changes to many of the skills (includiong the whole barrier thing) and the "stat raising via investing skills mechanics" (i need a better name for it) not to mention this list (which is a bit outdated but it gives you a general idea)

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 Post subject: Re: Where is the Players
PostPosted: Mon 19 Jul 2010, 17:29 
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Hey SpikesXX1, welcome to the forums. :)

I'd be very interested to know the exact phrase you typed into google to find Subvein.. I hope one day that Subvein will be at the top of the list when you type in "multiplayer top down shooter". At the moment it's Soldat. grrrrr.

Anyway, you just have to wait a little longer and then 0.6 will come out and answer almost everything you asked for. I've been working on this version for over 6 months now and it is going to be so amazingly better than before that it'll be worth the wait. Probably less than a month away.

1) 0.6 will bring many more players, especially due to the community credits system, accounts, vehicles, important bug fixes and overall polish and awesomeness.
2) As LungJuice said, I think that was a bug, that I've fixed. I haven't been able to test it yet, but I'm sure it will work. Again, 0.6.
3) I'm actually not sure about that one.. it only happens to some people. Did you try and make a new map? How big did you make it? Sometimes if you make it too big your computer runs out of memory. The map editor requires more memory to create a map than is required to play it. Any information you could provide would be helpful.
4 & 5) That Follow Me stuff for gangsters is a pretty good idea. I'll implement something like that through respect unlocks eventually. For 0.6 though, the AI has still been improved dramatically. As a mercenary you can run amongst gangsters.. but if you shoot one of them they will make you their enemy and shoot you back. They'll remember that you're they're enemy until they die and shoot you whenever they see you. If you're on a team and friendly fire, they'll shoot you back too - though only for the duration of the friendly fire flashing. Gangsters also explore now. They share information with eachother about where they last saw enemies, and through this they find a path to the enemy team in almost any map. This means that if you're on your own in a server, it's a lot more immersive... there's always a battle going on ;)
6) Character customizations and vehicles both come out in 0.6. So will account systems, a dramatically better looking menu, new HUD interface and controls, new skills, particle systems in the maps.. new Checkpoint game mode, etc..

So yeah, just wait a bit longer. I'm glad you like the game, tell your friends when 0.6 comes out! Make them refer you and you'll get lots of community credits for player customisations too!

Cheers,
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 Post subject: Re: Where is the Players
PostPosted: Mon 19 Jul 2010, 17:52 
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I've got to admit, just the small change to AI has had pretty dramatic effects. I started a game on BX_Foundation, and before i had even selected which skills i wanted, there was chaos. Both groups of gangsters had moved out of their spawn zones and were fighting all over the map. It made the game so much more immersive to see mini battles going on throughout the map.

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 Post subject: Re: Where is the Players
PostPosted: Wed 21 Jul 2010, 00:19 
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Yeah, i think it will be cool.
I look forward to test it, i'm still waiting. For the map edditing, it's probably what the creator said. I get into the map edditor, and if i scroll the view so much, the game crash. It's my graphic card RAM i think.

Gun firing, Magics, Move deffensivly, driving vehicules and now, Real time strategy. More skills we have to devlope in game made the fun much more immersive.

An other idea. Vehicule with many Crew slot. Like a driver and a gunner. You'r at your base, you chose your vehicule. You check for buying weapon. You take the command remote. You equip, and than, you click on a gangster of your team and a seccond click on the gunner seat. The gangster climb with you and let roll to the warfare. With a gunner, you just need to focus on your driving while your gunner shoot on the enemy on sight.

I maybe cool. Like the warthog in halo. With this concept, you can create Vehicule with more seats like a troop transport full of gangsters & players to gain fire power. And you can create light vehicules for alone player who can drive and shoot with is own weapon together. Or simply, armor the vehicules to put weakness point, like bullet don't break the chassi, but in the windows you can kill the crew inside. Or just like GTA, the vehicules can be destroyed.

Eddit : I'm thinking, and a buying vehicule zone, like a garage maybe cool too. Like this, players with low credits can just buy small and weak vehicules, and leaders can buy ultimate vehicules like a tank or something like a blackhawk. It may look too powerfull, but with EMP grenades or Rocket launcher, you can disable vehicules easily. In some, players are push to make a choise between Commanding, Firing basicaly or Driving your team. You can create skills to accentuate the gaming choise of the player. Like a drifting or dashing skill for vehicule, and a Zone selection skill for the commanding remote etc...

Immersive game are long. If the players can stay at is base to do something it maybe cool too. Like gun mount on the base. You enter a house, come close to the window, and a message say : Press E to buy turret mount 6000$. You press E and your character are attach to the window with a M60 with deadly accuracy. Now you can hold your hideout and when you'r tired, press E again and you'r free with a basic M60 in hand with normal accuracy. It maybe usefull against vehicules and overwhelming enemies.


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 Post subject: Re: Where is the Players
PostPosted: Wed 21 Jul 2010, 16:08 
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And the 0.6 is coming too close? :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Where is the Players
PostPosted: Wed 21 Jul 2010, 16:31 
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yeah really close now. v0.59 for testing should be ready in about 2 weeks or so. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Where is the Players
PostPosted: Wed 21 Jul 2010, 21:00 
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bencelot wrote:
keeps momentum. Tiger, in about a month or so I hope. Should be really awesome!!!

-date 25 jun! u said month :D
Now u talking about 2 weeks!
I read on russian forms so u want done it on new year..
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 Post subject: Re: Where is the Players
PostPosted: Wed 21 Jul 2010, 21:03 
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haha, yeah.. it always gets pushed back. But we ARE getting close!

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 Post subject: Re: Where is the Players
PostPosted: Wed 21 Jul 2010, 21:08 
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i real hope! i has slow pc and found good 2d games too hard!
I loved this game from first screen shoot :D
Now im not in city. Playing on sisters laptop. It fast but internet TOO Slow.
O downloaded subvein in 25 mins! And it not work..I remembered it dont work on WINDOWS 7 T_T

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 Post subject: Re: Where is the Players
PostPosted: Wed 21 Jul 2010, 22:05 
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it does work on windows 7. I'm using win7 right now. It's probably the gfx card. The drivers need to be updated. If you go into Subvein/data/log.txt and print the contents of that into here I might be able to tell you why it doesn't work.

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 Post subject: Re: Where is the Players
PostPosted: Thu 22 Jul 2010, 18:49 
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D'oh! Maybe... I don't know what installed or not :b
Need screen-shot? I has strange error.
Wait little time...

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 Post subject: Re: Where is the Players
PostPosted: Thu 22 Jul 2010, 19:25 
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So i don't want to download again :/ it tale 5 hours! speed fall 1 kb/sec.
Tomorrow i go to home and start play normal :D
Error is game start and in cover by many many lines and stop working....

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 Post subject: Re: Where is the Players
PostPosted: Sat 24 Jul 2010, 17:13 
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bencelot wrote:
haha, yeah.. it always gets pushed back. But we ARE getting close!


Lols don't worry about it by the way. This one guy who's really good at making flash games said the release date of his next game was December 2008. He released it at June 2010.

And then there was Duke Nukem Forever.

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 Post subject: Re: Where is the Players
PostPosted: Sat 07 Aug 2010, 20:24 
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I've been waiting any asean hosted server for subvein, because I'm nearly at Singapore. Playing Subvein at Europe or Australia my ping will be fucked up to 400 - 500ms.

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 Post subject: Re: Where is the Players
PostPosted: Sat 07 Aug 2010, 20:37 
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Hmm, perhaps you could host one yourself? You'll get community credits for it, too. Might bring more asian players to the game aswell.

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 Post subject: Re: Where is the Players
PostPosted: Sun 08 Aug 2010, 00:05 
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Oh well, I need find hoster's near the SG/MY if I could to buy xD

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 Post subject: Re: Where is the Players
PostPosted: Sun 08 Aug 2010, 01:03 
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buy? I just host my server from my home computer. Not quite as fast, but it'll do for now :)

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 Post subject: Re: Where is the Players
PostPosted: Sun 08 Aug 2010, 01:15 
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Nah. Hust host isn work! need "white" ip (outside ip)
You will host only when u buy them 12$ first mapyment and 1$ each mounth.
Or u has modem. Whn u has modem need to change port and all done.
I wait green gamer's back and he will up server again!

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